This week, Devindra and Cherlynn dive into Engadget’s opinions on Google’s Pixel 9 and 9 Professional telephones. Are they actually a step up from final yr’s gadgets? And the way do they examine to Samsung’s newest? Additionally, we chat about just a few tales from Gamescom 2024, together with Microsoft’s Indiana Jones sport heading to the PS5, in addition to the wild launch of Black Fable: Wukong.
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Google approaches smartphone perfection with the Pixel 9 and Pixel 9 Professional – 0:58
Gamescom highlights: Indiana Jones, AI NPCs and Black Fable: Wukong – 22:15
xMEMS’ 1mm ultrasonic ‘fan on a chip’ breakthrough might allow super-thin gadgets – 49:31
San Francisco metropolis legal professional takes goal at AI deepfake pornography – 52:29
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British Billionaire Mike Lynch, founding father of tech agency Autonomy, discovered lifeless within the wreckage of his yacht – 55:48
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Hosts: Devindra Hardawar and Cherlynn Low
Producer: Ben Ellman
Music: Dale North and Terrence O’Brien
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Devindra: [00:00:00] What’s up, Web, and welcome again to the Engadget Podcast. I am Senior Editor Devindra Hardawar.
Cherlynn: I am Deputy Editor Cherlynn Low.
Devindra: This week, we have opinions for the Pixel 9 and 9 Professional and XLs and all the assorted Pixel 9 fashions, apart from the Fold that is not out but. In order that’s very unhappy. That is gonna be a pair weeks away.
And we have additionally acquired some information from Gamescom 2024, which is, I assume, nonetheless occurring. However many of the main information has already occurred from the opening night time and a few followup occasions. And yeah, acquired some weekly information as effectively. As at all times, people, for those who’re having fun with the present, please be sure you subscribe to us on iTunes or your podcatcher of alternative, go away us a assessment on iTunes and drop us an electronic mail at podcastengadget.
com and be part of us Thursdays, sometimes round three. 10 45 AM Japanese on our YouTube channel the place we reside stream the present and you may discuss to us. We’ll showcase some devices. I do know Sherilyn has one thing she desires to point out off quickly throughout our Q and A’s and it is enjoyable time. We have additionally acquired an excellent group of individuals right here.
So be part of us. We have the pixel telephones now, Sherilyn. I am certain [00:01:00] you have been like in enhancing hell for the previous week. Are you able to broadly inform us, so how will we really feel in regards to the, let’s concentrate on the pixel 9 proper now. How will we really feel in regards to the pixel 9?
Cherlynn: The pixel 9, I wasn’t anticipating it to get an excellent excessive rating, however Sam, who reviewed the pixel 9 for us appears actually impressed.
I imply, like Sam likes
Devindra: it. Sam Rutherford, Sam Rutherford
Cherlynn: is our like Android fundamental particular person. And he’s additionally our foldables particular person. So, so having him assessment like essentially the most normal pixel 9, I used to be identical to, it is a, he will be bored. Proper. I used to be like, this man’s used to his massive foldable screens, however Sam actually loved the pixel 9 and prefer to contextualize it for everybody.
I went from studying Matt’s assessment first of the pixel 9 professional and professional XL. So Matt Smith, our UK bureau chief I went from enhancing him after which happening to Sam, whose assessment went up the following day. And once more, you, you learn the professional assessment, you are like, after all, it is good. [00:02:00]After all, everybody preferred the professional.
Meta scored the professional
Devindra: very, very excessive. That’s shocking. Properly,
Cherlynn: let’s get to that. I wished to speak about that. However you, I imply, you requested to begin with the 9. So we’ll begin with the 9, the fundamental child. Properly, for those who, if
Devindra: you are feeling extra within the professional, you can begin there. It is as much as you.
Cherlynn: We are able to. I’ve simply began speaking in regards to the 9.
Let’s end this thought. So, so after I went from Matt to Sam, I wasn’t anticipating, I used to be anticipating like, I want this was the professional, , form of that vibe. I did not get that. I truly acquired Sam going On the finish, he stated actually, for those who do not want the Gemini superior AI, for those who do not want like a telephoto, like a devoted telephoto digicam, it’s possible you’ll even be very pleased with the Pixel 9, which is once more, what we at all times differentiate between the professional and the common flagships.
Is that it is the
Devindra: iPhone and. iPhone professional scenario too, proper? Precisely. It is the
Cherlynn: identical scenario now. So I believe it was although in earlier years that as a result of there was by no means a smaller pixel professional, it was at all times like a bigger pixel professional is at all times a [00:03:00] bigger cellphone. We had extra motive to advocate. The 9 due to measurement, however now it is no, even when there’s like another measurement within the premium, like premium high finish, like kind of a variant, we nonetheless are just like the nines fairly freaking good.
So I used to be simply shocked by that. Now. Again to your level the extra attention-grabbing assessment in my view is the, the, the truth that Matt determined to award the Pixel 9 Professional and 9 Professional XL respectively, like actually excessive scores for any, I believe even any Android handset ever for us, 94 and 92 is the place we landed with the 9 Professional and 9 Professional XL respectively.
And once more, to contextualize and offer you all like somewhat little bit of behind the scenes. He candidly, he scored them somewhat bit larger at first. And I used to be like, Whoa, We’re
Devindra: not going to have a 100 out of 100 math. Yeah. I simply was
Cherlynn: like, I believe we’d have to tamper this somewhat bit. I really feel like we’re very [00:04:00] excited, however we have to give ourselves some.
Some a somewhat little bit of wiggle room like what are they they are not excellent, proper? So I believe we tweaked and within the tweaking we tweaked the unique scores for each gadgets each went down somewhat bit I believe for those who have a look at our rating for final yr’s pixel 8 Professional It was 93 and once more That is like approach too within the weeds and each Matt and I might be like we hate Arguing over one or two factors, however here is the reasoning 93 for final yr’s.
And normally we’re like, that is simply pretty much as good if not higher. So perhaps we’ll go to 93 or 91, however then we introduced the pixel 9 professional Excel down some extent, and that’s partially as a result of. Matt nonetheless wished to have a large enough hole between the 9 professional and the 9 professional XL. And so 93 simply was good. Wasn’t giving us lots of room.
After which the opposite motive is that the 9 professional XL truly, though it has is identical measurement is display is 0. 1 inch larger this yr, which like. does not sound like a lot while you’re speaking a few [00:05:00] body that is nonetheless the identical measurement, however the display for Matt, who boldly claimed he had bigger than common fingers or common or no matter, not too small fingers.
I do not know what he is telling us there, however he was all like, It was already exhausting. Be humble brag.
Devindra: Thanks Matt.
Cherlynn: Yeah, it was a really humble brag, however even for Matt, it was like exhausting to succeed in the corners. And so with that we had been like, alright, it is value like saying it’s unwieldy. It’s a dearer cellphone than final yr.
These AI options do not do sufficient for us to be like, yeah, it is value that, that, , preserving it identical rating kind of scenario but so. We introduced it down some extent, however that is not a nasty factor as a result of why? The 9 Professional, holy crap, we it is arguably certainly one of our highest scored telephones round 94. So, clearly you have learn these opinions, Davindra had been you shocked on the scores we gave?
Devindra: I am actually, I used to be shocked on the rating of the 9 Professional. The XL, , being somewhat extra unwieldy, I used to be not shocked there, however, It does appear I do not know, I used to be speaking about this with Sam somewhat bit too round his assessment. It’s [00:06:00] humorous to see Google’s journey on like the way in which it is pondering of Android telephones, proper?
Trigger they launched with. Let’s return in historical past, proper? They launched with the HTC G1, proper? And a number of the like early Motorola’s like stuff from third events. Then third occasion began making lots of rubbish and placing lots of stuff into Android software program. So Google was like, okay, okay, maintain up.
Let’s have these Nexus telephones, that are simply pure Android, which run all our stuff and does not have any of your third occasion rubbish. And at that time. That by no means, that was by no means an enormous vendor, proper? That was for the followers, the tremendous followers, the folks on-line, the tremendous nerds. Pixel was their try and be like, okay, let’s screw it.
Let’s simply go iPhone. And I really feel like 9 generations in they lastly completed it. The digicam bar has been chopped up. The design appears somewhat spiffier. I am not too shocked. I do really feel prefer it looks as if Google knocked this one out. So. I used to be shocked by the rating quantity, however yeah, I really feel like Google, it has been a protracted street for Google to get up to now to make just like the [00:07:00] best Android cellphone, I might say.
Cherlynn: It has. And I, I imply, I do not know if I’d name it the perfect Android cellphone, even when I believe it’s. It is a very considerably improved gadget over, as an instance the sooner pixels, though it looks like over the pixel eight, which I even have right here, proper. And for these of you on the stream, I am holding up aspect by aspect so you’ll be able to form of look proper.
The design felt good on the pixel eight professional, , the colours, , Google’s at all times nailed the colour combo. It feels very completely different this time. I believe you have seen all our opinions. I simply talked about this independently, Matt Smith within the UK and Sam in New Jersey had been each all this looks like an iPhone.
Matt nearly picked it up and was like, this feels just like the iPhone. And it appears like an iPhone, and that is not a nasty factor, proper? As a result of they nonetheless have sufficient of a distinction, just like the digicam bar is completely different sufficient, there’s the G emblem I assume. Is {that a}, that is a, that is an excellent factor within the sense that it feels premium.
It feels stable. It looks like an excellent actual cellphone. And I am certain there are individuals who will not be completely happy about that. They’re like, , do not preserve [00:08:00] copying Apple telephones are so boring now. They’re all the identical as a result of remember the Samsung S24 collection. Additionally really feel like iPhones I’ve acquired a Samsung S24 within the hand as effectively.
And it is they’ve all turn into roughly the identical. And whether or not it is a good or unhealthy factor is basically as much as you to determine. However for Google although, the design. It is an enormous step up, proper? Like they do not really feel the necessity to differentiate. They do not really feel the necessity to do these like extremely like slimmy, curvy sides anymore to realize a slider, barely thinner profile.
It is, it feels very grown up. And I wrote a blurb for our greatest smartphones man in regards to the Pixel 9 Professional saying that this looks like a grown up cellphone and to Matt’s level in his assessment. a showcase for Gemini AI. And I believe that that is what these telephones are all about. Pixel telephones have at all times been in regards to the digicam, however like these are like digicam plus, ,
Devindra: Are we liking the AI options?
And we also needs to differentiate between the native stuff, which you do not have to pay for, after which there’s the fancier stuff, which comes free with the professional gadgets for a yr, however [00:09:00]you’ll have to pay for that finally, a minimum of 20 bucks a month. Is the AI stuff any good?
Cherlynn: I imply, the potential and the like precise good of it.
Like The, the, the, how effectively it really works. Proper. Looks like fairly good. I imply, add me, everybody’s been having enjoyable with once more, independently, each Sam and Matt had been like, we use add me to clone ourselves. Within the, and add me to be clear is the characteristic on the digicam the place you’ll be able to have. You recognize, you are taking a bunch shot after which you’ll be able to hand, somebody takes a photograph first after which hand the cellphone off to another person.
And then you definitely, the photographer can go and take your house within the image. And the cellphone will give some AI information, AR steering to point out you the place to, , body up the shot and to make your, make you within the image. In order that appeared spectacular sufficient and enjoyable sufficient that they each had been like taking part in round with it.
As a result of it is solely been what, like per week since these telephones had been launched. It is a not sufficient time to say how a lot we’ll use this in the true world. Issues just like the pixel screenshots app. I believe there are issues right here and there the place Sam loved it. Sam actually discovered it helpful. Matt had points with it.
Like he factors [00:10:00] out that like you’ll be able to’t. Robotically again up your whole Google images historical past on setup. So it would be like, you’ll go to, you’ll have to manually import footage one after the other. And it is simply not, yeah, I imply, not, there’s nothing improper with like manually importing footage and this can be a large privateness factor as a result of some folks’s yeah,
Devindra: it is undoubtedly a privateness factor.
Cherlynn: Yeah. It is like Google images. My, mine is like so a few years in historical past and I do not wish to give it entry to the whole lot directly. So anyway, there’s additionally the pixel studio app, which I believe each of Sam and Matt preferred as a result of it was enjoyable, however each of them had been additionally like, eh I believe that is extra of a criticism of picture mills like that on the whole, the place such as you feed mid journey a immediate and it comes up, how a lot are you going to make use of this?
We’re probably not gonna do that each one day. It is not. That a lot helpful. So these are the principle AI options. I imply, the remainder of the stuff, like your typical Gmail abstract issues or like your, even Apple [00:11:00] intelligence is making an attempt to do a few of these issues. I, I did not get an actual massive sense that they had been that like loopy good.
I imply, Sam talked about name notes in his piece, however I believe none of us have actually put it to by means of the ringer by means of like actually tough calls to see if it really works that approach. Via all these conditions as effectively. So,
Devindra: and that is the factor that can summarize your name and offer you notes, just like the factor in textual content.
That is cool. Yeah. A
Cherlynn: transcript and a abstract, which is cool. I believe. Yeah.
Devindra: Okay, cool. So, however I imply, general I assume any surprises, any, any shocking highlights from the Israelin or any like shocking disappointments.
Cherlynn: Zoom improve on movies is a bizarre, prefer it take, it took them one yr to truly carry it out to a tool.
Ben: Sure.
Cherlynn: After which the, the truth that it isn’t on the 9, you must have a 9 professional to make use of it was what Sam identified within the night time, which is, , I’d count on that from Sam, proper. Who’s used to reviewing professional telephones. After which for Matt, I believe he, however they each identified in low gentle, Google’s cameras nonetheless far and away higher than the competitors.
They each. [00:12:00]meticulously put it by means of his paces within the digicam entrance. I believe all of us actually take pleasure in digicam testing and it nonetheless got here up tops, proper? Google nonetheless got here up tops on digicam. And Matt, our assessment nearly did not rise up on time as a result of he needed to run the battery check for the Pixel Professional XL. Properly, the Professional arrived somewhat later than the Professional XL did so he did not have as a lot time, but additionally the Professional ran for thus lengthy.
It lasted 25 hours on our battery check. That is lots. I imply, the Professional XL acquired 23 hours thereabouts. Wait, that is already longer. The 25 hour mark is longer than our subsequent closest quantity, which is the OnePlus 12, I imagine. So, throughout simply extremely spectacular telephones. I am shocked. And I believe that that is what’s shocking, proper?
We’re like, whoa, these are good?
Devindra: What? These are good? Properly, there have been lots of shocks early on. It is these are trendy? These appear succesful and good? I do know I believe that is going to be an enormous compelling issue for lots of people, Shirley. I am like, Google for a very long time has been like, we’re making telephones for nerds and for individuals who do not care as a lot about [00:13:00] Samsung bling and no matter.
And now it is simply no, Google’s no, we’re simply, we’re simply going to do the identical factor. We’ll do iPhone sort stuff. How does this examine to the present Samsung stuff, Cherlynn?
Cherlynn: I imply, I believe Google has the higher hand in AI, for certain, and cameras, so I believe that is what I used to be seeing throughout the board, that just like the S24’s cameras had been good, however in some conditions not pretty much as good, though one, in a single event, like Samsung did higher on the Professional XL or one thing, after which I wish to tackle a number of the questions within the chat actually rapidly, so, MiniMeA1231 asks if we might be evaluating the Google AI versus the Apple AI.
Clearly we won’t proper now as a result of the Apple intelligence stuff is not out. We might examine Samsung’s to your focal point, Samsung’s Galaxy AI to Google’s Gemini AI, however like I stated, it is simply Completely different functions, various things like Samsung’s AI, Galaxy AI characteristic within the Z Flip 6 and the Z Fold 6, that are its newest to characteristic like new Galaxy AI options got here with you’ll be able to draw onto an image and it will add a cat, ?
Yeah. That kind of factor to me is basically enjoyable, however the precise use of it, IDK, proper? In the meantime, [00:14:00]Google’s acquired no equal characteristic. It is acquired auto body and reimagine, and it is acquired like pixel studio. And so there is not any simple method to do an apples to apples comparability. However I additionally wish to tackle that CUD or CUT who’s a well-known identify from our chat says that entire add me characteristic.
Is that this one thing that folks need? As a result of it’s kind of bizarre if it turns into the norm, folks would simply be including in all their family and friends and images after they had been by no means there. Would possibly as effectively add your cat and canine when you’re at it. I do not assume you’ll be able to, after the very fact, add folks, FYI. So for add me, it is such as you’re holding up the cellphone.
After which, for instance, I’ve had household visiting this previous couple weeks or so. And if I am sounding ragged, that is why. And we have been taking like household footage, proper? So it is 4 of us. And we strive to not trouble folks. So we do not ask them. Stranges additionally, you do not at all times really feel protected, proper while you’re on the road and like standing in entrance of a museum and take a 4, 4, 4 of us please.
Who’s to say they will not simply run? So I might have my cousin, , maintain up the cellphone and take the preliminary image whereas I pose together with his mother and pa. After which he comes [00:15:00] into the image. I maintain up the cellphone and he go, I believe if there are lots of. Particular use instances the place it will be useful. And I do not assume you’ll be able to add a cat and canine in since you’ll by no means get the cat and canine to remain within the place they want them to.
So CD reduce, I’m sorry however I do not assume you’ll be able to. And I believe I’d I might see some use for this add me characteristic.
Devindra: I am certain folks will work out methods to hack it, however it does appear from the demos they did. Prefer it creates like an AR scenario of the place you’re proper now. Yeah. In case you break that.
Atmosphere like the place it’s. I do not assume you’ll be able to truly even sew one thing into that. I believe the larger concern is simply it’s bizarre to have some options locked into simply Google’s telephones when Google is each, , an organization making telephones, but additionally the corporate offering the software program to everyone else.
That is very very like Inter Explorer on home windows, , or Apple locking down some options simply to its gadgets. Prefer it feels if this goes on. Folks can chat Monopoly or one thing happening right here. Do you are feeling bizarre about that, Trillian? Like a few of these simply being on Google stuff for thus far?
Cherlynn: [00:16:00] I, I do not know that they’ll at all times be that approach. I believe that like for some issues, as a result of Gemini Superior is one thing that you may apply for and get with every other. Like cellphone, proper? Like you’ll be able to apply for and so a few of these options may come out to a future android telephones or different branded Android telephones after which with pixel there have been just a few issues which have been locked into pixel for a really very long time like pixel ui issues pixels, name screening pixels like common like name help issues have been very pixel cellphone centric and I really feel like that is as a result of it has been Constructed so deeply into the U S versus it is an app, proper?
The pixel screenshots at pixel recorder. These issues have finally opened as much as another perhaps Samsung, perhaps I do not even assume there’s different Android gamers actually, however yeah, however Samsung, proper. And so they work intently sufficient with Samsung to be like finally perhaps proper. Circle to look is a characteristic that launched first on Samsung, though it was a Google characteristic.
So I really feel prefer it’s not essentially tremendous locked in. And even when it had been. To reply that a part of your query, I do not [00:17:00] know if that’s such an enormous deal. I believe perhaps Google does have to preserve a few of this for itself, proper? Like we, we all know that Android is meant to be like essentially the most open ecosystem. It is alleged to be like welcoming and like no matter, however Google at this level wants to have the ability to play the sport the way in which Samsung, Apple.
Particularly Apple. Does it? Does it although?
Devindra: It is, it is inherently unfair to be each the software program vendor doing it and in addition be like, oh, additionally, hey companions, we’re additionally going to immediately compete with you in {hardware} and in addition preserve options to ourselves that you may by no means contact. Like that, that’s the place anti aggressive stuff like begins to come up, I assume, yeah.
I
Cherlynn: imply, I believe Google has its ft and toes in so many issues that prefer it’s anti aggressive in lots of different areas. However I believe on the pixel entrance, prefer it’s usually been making an attempt to carry pixel first or pixel solely options to extra gadgets. However then , while you stated the entire like, Oh, you are speaking in regards to the software program and the {hardware}.
I used to be like at first actually readying to answer being like, Apple does that. However then you definitely had been saying that it isn’t truthful as a result of Google competes with its personal clients. So I get [00:18:00]that. I do not know. I do not know that I do not understand how they are going about it, actually.
Devindra: The US authorities has declared them a monopoly.
Yep. Proper. Or a minimum of the US decide has. Anti belief. Anti belief. So search there. They’re a search monopoly. Android is such a open ecosystem that everyone helps. I simply really feel like Google goes to begin to be fearful about this as a result of we already talked in regards to the potential repercussions from the search monopoly factor, like might, could possibly be like, Hey, perhaps you must cut up up somewhat bit.
Perhaps we should always take out a few of these elements of Google and make them separate corporations. I’m wondering if. The corporate itself is somewhat afraid of that as a result of it isn’t simply Oh, we’ll slap a 5 or 10 million superb on you, which is like the cash Google, , that it is of their sofa cushions.
It is like extra critical issues might occur.
Cherlynn: Can I rapidly return to the chat for particular to pixel inquiries to the pixel 9, I imply, so, has Sam. Perhaps Sam in an alternate timeline is would love to listen to in regards to the warmth administration of the Tensor 4. And that is one thing that did come up in our pixel 9 Professional assessment.
So Matt observed that the Tensor G 4 truly runs a [00:19:00] lot cooler than older pixel cellphone. So sorry. It’s extremely bizarre to be just like the Tenser G 4 runs cooler than the Pixel eight Professional as a result of like, the place else is the Tenser G three? The Tenser G three gonna be clearly the Pixel eight Professional. However I believe it is necessary to concentrate on the cellphone than simply the chip as a result of though the chip does supposedly run cooler, it is also the truth that prefer to depro9’s level within the chat, Pixel 9 collection has a greater like thermal dissipation system, so prefer it’s lots cooler.
I did discover that sure, the Pixel 8 Professional that I used to be utilizing would run actually scorching. I have never, I believe, pushed the 9 Professional XL sufficient to really feel like it will in, , You recognize, that circumstance in any other case be scorching however I’ve by no means felt it run scorching. Proper. So prefer to that time, it actually appears to run cooler.
And Matt undoubtedly pushed it tougher in his assessment and was like, it was cooler. So, has Sam, I hope that solutions your query. And I imply, However I believe the truth that the cellphone’s somewhat bit thicker of a, of a profile is partly as a result of it wanted to construct in some kind of like higher cooling [00:20:00] system.
Gotcha.
Devindra: Gotcha. Okay. Properly, every other ideas on these items? I’d wish to level folks to our opinions, go test them out on the location.
Cherlynn: Go take a look at our website. Pixel 9 Professional opinions been up since yesterday and our Pixel 9 opinions up at this time. The on sale date for that collection of telephones is up at this time. After which we’ve so many different Pixel gadgets coming in.
Ship me your questions on them. I am like. What do you wish to know most in regards to the 9 Professional Full, the Pixel Watch 3, and the Pixel Buds Professional 2? Final week additionally on Saturday I did a fast Engadget assessment recap, and I might be doing certainly one of these for the Pixel, all of the Pixel merchandise sooner or later.
So, once more, I actually wish to know your ideas on the upcoming gadgets earlier than we assessment them in order that I can go into them in search of these questions. So ship them our approach, podcast. engadget. com. You may at all times electronic mail me. C H E R at Engadget. com as effectively.
Devindra: Let’s transfer on to some information from Gamescom 2024, which is going on proper now [00:21:00] in Cologne, Germany. We aren’t there in particular person, I imagine, however we’re masking lots of information from the occasion. And a few highlights right here and becoming a member of us for this dialogue is our podcast producer, Ben Ellman. Hey, Ben.
Ben: Trigger after we’re speaking about video video games, it is Ben time.
Devindra: It is Ben time. And we do not, we do not wish to break Sherilyn’s mind with a few of this sport stuff, as a result of I am certain Sherilyn doesn’t care in regards to the Indiana Jones sport coming to Xbox. I do not know. Do you, Sherilyn?
Cherlynn: I’ve heard that younger Indiana Jones.
Devindra: What?
Cherlynn: Who, who, who was the actor? Shit. You
Ben: imply Shia LaBeouf?
You imply River Phoenix? No, no, no, no.
Cherlynn: Younger, what’s his face? Younger crap. This older man.
Devindra: Okay, because of this, younger Harrison Ford?
Cherlynn: Harrison Ford! Younger Harrison Ford! Because of this Ben is on this section. This
Devindra: is why Ben helps us out. Anyway, I’ve
Cherlynn: heard that younger Harrison Ford is scorching. Anyway, that is all.
That is all. Go for it. It
Devindra: does not, however it does not appear to be Harrison Ford. It is it is a completely completely different I
Cherlynn: know I am simply saying that once I hear Indiana Jones, I believe okay So Shulman
Devindra: is speaking in regards to the CG model of younger Harrison Ford. No, I have been [00:22:00] despatched
Cherlynn: footage of him on his heyday
Devindra: AI okay. Properly, sure, he was scorching.
Sure, but additionally in the newest film they use AI to de age him Yeah, you get a glimpse of that that previous scorching Harrison Ford face anyway We’re speaking in regards to the sport right here. This sport is among the like uncommon exclusives that Microsoft has. And there was lots of discuss this factor. That is Indiana Jones and the good circle.
It is coming from it is developed by Xbox subsidiary machine video games. I imagine. It, this got here as a part of the the entire ZeniMax acquisition. So when Microsoft purchased id Software program, Arcane, Bethesda machine video games got here alongside that. And I imagine there was a deal to get this sport to Sony’s finally.
So here is what we realized is that this sport is coming to Xbox and PC on December ninth. It is coming to the PlayStation 5. A few months later in spring 2025 and the nerds, particularly the Microsoft nerds, the Xbox followers have gone somewhat loopy as a result of they’re like our unique. What’s occurring now?
Do you’ve ideas about this [00:23:00]Trillian or Ben?
Ben: That is Microsoft admitting that not very many individuals have Xboxes and so they don’t need this to only be a PC sport.
Devindra: Microsoft is a enterprise and so they prefer to promote video games and sadly their {hardware}. Has not completed an excellent job of that. So I believe that is the fundamental factor right here.
Does this really feel odd to you, Sherilyn? Or is that this identical to bizarre fanboy inviting at this level?
Cherlynn: I at all times consider it as unusual fanboy infighting as a result of I do not listen as a lot to this information. Would not actually matter to me.
Devindra: It is humorous, like, while you tune what are the avid gamers as much as? They’re mad about Indiana Jones.
They’re mad about this woman character starring in a sport. The avid gamers aren’t okay. Yeah.
Cherlynn: Once in a while there’s this massive Controversy in gaming, proper? Oh, effectively, what trans characters, sexism, violence. There’s at all times form of up, , like public outcry over lots of these items. I believe I am extra involved when it is like when blizzard Activision and all, they’ve all that stuff, proper?
Sexism on the office, poisonous atmosphere, like that kind of we’ll discuss
Devindra: about that [00:24:00] quickly. Much more hurt. Yeah, so we’ll get to that. Don’t fret. We have that. So anyway,
Cherlynn: I used to be trying ahead to it. Superior.
Devindra: There’s information right here.
Ben: Okay. So Devindra, certainly one of my massive questions was, , as I used to be watching the trailer for this sport and studying Jess’s first look,
Devindra: the sport, which appears sick as hell, by the way in which, I do assume this sport appears improbable.
Ben: Yeah. So I used to be questioning, okay, with the Uncharted collection and the whole lot, like why is not this a 3rd particular person sport? However then after watching the trailer, I spotted, okay, I believe they wish to make it actually visceral. There’s lots of hand at hand fight on this sport. They wish to make it really feel like the flicks did.
The combat choreography within the Indiana Jones motion pictures again then, simply combat choreography general, was okay. It was superb. Yeah. And Indiana Jones was by no means recognized for large martial arts maneuvers like Batman or something. Oh no, he is recognized for taking pictures the man swinging the sword. Yeah, precisely. So you’ll be able to’t actually have an Arkham Asylum, you [00:25:00]know, third particular person type Indiana Jones sport the place Indy is like breaking a Nazi’s again over his knee.
Devindra: They, they may have completed some, I, I truthfully favor third particular person, like angles, like video games too. Trigger I prefer to see my characters once I’m working round, however I believe that principally this comes from machine video games, proper? And machine video games, they did these the Wolfenstein the newest, like Wolfenstein video games, that are improbable and good.
And in addition I didn’t actually care to play like a contemporary Wolfenstein shooter, however they did nice stuff when it got here to love environmental storytelling, good writing. They, they did some attention-grabbing stuff with first particular person shooters. So I believe it is only a, an attention-grabbing alternative to do that. I believe the digicam pans out typically.
So that you do see the character and in reduce scenes, you see him too. We’ll, we’ll see how this goes. Go learn Jess’s, Jess Condit’s fingers on with this factor. The title is Indiana Jones and the Nice Circle has a Nazi slapping mechanic and gotta adore it to see gotta adore it Shout out to this sport for doing that.
Additionally in Microsoft information, there is a couple assistive tech issues that they introduced. [00:26:00] There is a new Xbox adaptive joystick, which is a single stick sort of factor, which appears like, truthfully, it appears lots like a VR controller, like one thing with the Oculus Headset or one thing, however you’ll be able to plug this into an present xbox controller the adaptive controller and provides you a bunch of controls They’ll deal with with only one hand let me see right here.
There are additionally some 3d printable recordsdata for Adaptex thumbstick toppers so you’ll be able to obtain these recordsdata. They’re free. It’s important to get entry to the 3d printer Discuss to your native library as a result of usually they’ll have a few of these gadgets. However you’ll be able to print out these items to get like higher grips in your cellphone too, for individuals who have bother with with, , very typical gripping.
There’s additionally this cool factor. Let me see right here in partnership with 8BitDo that. Controller firm. There’s the sunshine S E 2. 4 G wi-fi controller, which is a sport pad with all of the inputs on the highest has low resistance buttons and Corridor impact joysticks additionally has these like large eight, however do the tremendous buttons that they placed on their mechanical keyboards.
Similar to an enormous ass button [00:27:00]you’ll be able to hit. And I assume program issues too. So lots of attention-grabbing choices right here too. I am seeing CUD within the chat
Ben: saying that it appears like a Wii nunchuck. That’s not improper. It
Devindra: shouldn’t be improper, however extra particularly, if Microsoft had been to be like, Hey, perhaps we should always do a VR headset or one thing.
This type of appears like what a VR management appears like, perhaps with out the movement controls. So that’s cool. Additionally, additionally the all digital Xbox collection X, which we thought was form of a joke when Microsoft introduced it a few months in the past, you’ll be able to pre order that now it is 450. It’ll be coming to the U S on October fifteenth.
It is solely 50 cheaper than the disc model, that disc model, which by the way in which, usually goes on sale for 400. typically even much less. So I am nonetheless somewhat baffled by this factor. I am much more baffled by the 600 particular version, which has a two terabyte drive and the disk drive, however it’s 600. I do not, I do not know.
And we had been simply speaking
Ben: about how Xbox is Solely doing okay. They’re solely doing so
Devindra: somewhat than reducing the costs [00:28:00] to ship extra bins or I do not know, man, folks like us. We might somewhat promote extra video games by means of Sony than make our bins cheaper. So a very attention-grabbing calculation Microsoft is making there.
Did you ever determine on the following field? Did you ever get the collection S? Trigger we have talked about that for a few years.
Cherlynn: By no means, child, by no means get a PS 5 professional or no matter.
Devindra: That was an excellent time to keep away from that however I do not know extra steam deck stuff for you or these PC handhelds I do know you have been taking part in round with yeah I
Ben: assume that truly the PC handhelds are most likely the most suitable choice for Cherlynn
Devindra: as they get smaller too as a result of they’re nonetheless massive and sure
Cherlynn: smaller is best.
They seem to be a bit massive and heavy proper now I imply I performed lots with the I believe I knew, I imply, I performed somewhat bit with the steam duck. And my change continues to be a stupendous decoration. You may,
Devindra: you’ll be able to truthfully play many of the like good indie video games proper now on change. So you are not lacking out
Cherlynn: fairly previous change.
Bought it like proper earlier than the pandemic. So, however
Devindra: you most likely had the up to date battery a minimum of if that was 20, higher battery
Cherlynn: for certain. [00:29:00] I had that. I imply, I believe I am interested by these video games, I like the hand held video games, however like my, I do not know, my habits have modified a lot over the previous couple of years, it is oh, I acquired into crocheting lots, and now I simply sit round drawing.
Devindra: You bought into Vampire Survivors in your cellphone, proper? And that made you somewhat loopy, so I believe you are able to do that on Swap.
Cherlynn: I’m a beast at vampire survivors. I do not know what y’all speaking about. I am a gamer.
Ben: Borderlands
Devindra: 4 is coming, which looks like a menace. Gearbox and 2k video games introduced it is coming in 2025, which I believe the influence of this announcement would have been perhaps they had been planning for the film to go somewhat higher.
Perhaps they had been being like, oh, yeah, individuals are hyped for Borderlands proper now. Let’s announce our subsequent sport no, everyone hates the Borderlands film. I referred to as it a catastrophe. It’s it is an enormous mess So I do not know who’s excited for this factor However hopefully it is higher than Borderlands 3 which I recall being somewhat disappointing
Ben: Looking back May we’ve stated that the Borderlands, we knew that the Borderlands film was not going to be that nice after we noticed that Kevin Hart was solid in it?[00:30:00]
Devindra: He is not the issue. He is not the issue in that film. The issue is that , the script is unhealthy. Plenty of issues are unhealthy in that film.
Ben: So speaking particularly about Borderlands 4, I simply want that I had extra of a squad to play it with, as a result of I’ve been taking part in 2. I acquired these on sale as a part of a, form of like, purchase the entire assortment deal a few years in the past.
And I used to be having an excellent time taking part in it on my own, however I used to be like, eh, I really feel like I want extra folks. And, like, once I began taking part in this was a time Form of like I had taken a sabbatical from like on-line form of squad primarily based video games. And now that I’ve been taking part in Helldivers a lot, I’ve acquired like 125 hours in on there.
God rattling it. Yeah. Now I am pondering, okay, yeah. I actually wish to discover a squad of individuals to do different like squad primarily based video games with.
Devindra: I imply, you have acquired lots of choices, Sam. You have acquired all of the, all the opposite types of what Valorant? And whatnot. So I do not know. There’s so many squad primarily based video games [00:31:00] proper now.
That is I do surprise would not the precise like evolution of Borderlands be like, let’s do a future sort of factor the place you are truly happening, , multiplayer missions and stuff with folks. I believe, trigger you possibly can do co op play and simply dick round in Borderlands, however it was by no means as sturdy as one thing like future.
So I do not know. That could possibly be the factor. Did you see the story, Ben and Cherlynn in regards to the NVIDIA ACE digital people? I acquired lots
Ben: to say about this, however go on. Loads to
Devindra: say. These are, these are, so final yr, I imagine, NVIDIA confirmed off, it is an avatar cloud engine know-how, Ace know-how that is powering characters in some video games.
So principally, creating NPCs that can react to you the way in which like ChatGPT does, in order that they’d converse if to you In case you ask them a query or for those who select a sure immediate or one thing, they may react to what you are saying, or perhaps react to your clothes, but additionally their mannequin will like, appear to be it is speaking correctly.
They are going to have a semi AI dialog. Lots of people had been criticizing this as a method to be like so that you, this implies you are not, you do not want as many [00:32:00] writers, proper? This implies you possibly can simply populate your video games with this bizarre. AI spouting avatars and never truly write dialogue for them or storylines or something.
That is the controversy. The information is that it is truly coming to a multiplayer mecha sport referred to as Mecha Break. I’ve not heard an excessive amount of about this sport, however it’s truly occurring. It is, it’s very actual. What did you concentrate on this information Ben?
Ben: I watched the video the place, , you are principally in form of like a cyberpunk esque world and such as you’re going right into a sushi store and also you’re speaking with the like sushi store proprietor.
And I believe it is cool that you should use your voice to work together with this AI character. I believe that that is a very cool characteristic. cool like methodology of enter and one thing that is most likely going to pop up in much more video games. However, when the character began speaking, it felt very wood. It felt such as you had been speaking to a robotic.
The voice did not have very a lot shade to it. And [00:33:00] hey, I am a voice man, so. Oh you’ll be able to inform. Actually? Yeah, I actually need that to really feel extra alive. And so I used to be pondering, how would we find yourself utilizing this know-how? As a result of I believe that it could possibly be helpful in some instances, however undoubtedly not as the principle participant character.
Positively not. As , the following rung of NPCs. Yeah, these are like NPCs in bizarre
Devindra: submissions off on the finish of the map or one thing. Yeah, ought to
Ben: most likely like crucial, , 5 or so NPCs ought to most likely nonetheless be written and acted. However. The place this might find yourself being actually helpful is when you’ve got an enormous open world sport I am desirous about like Murderer’s Creed or one thing the place you are like at all times Operating by means of these like crowded marketplaces or one thing and also you simply hear folks like yelling issues That when you’ve got a few [00:34:00] folks doing background enhancing Appearing like traces after which the remainder of it generated by NVIDIA ACE, then that could possibly be a great way of stretching your funds somewhat bit additional and making the general world really feel a bit extra alive.
Devindra: Yeah. Yeah. You’re completely proper, Ben. That is I am certain what they’re all pondering. I hate that concept as a result of particularly like once I was taking part in the most recent, like Murderer’s Creed sport, which is ready approach again in I do not know, it is, it is within the Center East 1000’s of years in the past and strolling by means of the cities, like strolling by means of the villages and seeing the way in which they constructed it and seeing like folks work together with dialogue that has been recorded by people and written by people.
Prefer it felt so alive. I used to be form of astounded by that. And for those who substitute that atmosphere with, with AI stuff, , like that is that to me will kill the realism of the sport. And I will simply really feel like I am, Oh, I am simply strolling by means of the simulation proper now. I am not strolling by means of historical Baghdad or something.
Proper. It is I really feel like that’ll kill [00:35:00]it extra. So I am certain you all have ideas podcasting gadget. com. Take heed to what you concentrate on this. I am not an enormous fan. Not an enormous fan of yeah. I simply hope it
Ben: does not kill the artwork of the like, little in joke form of world constructing factor. One in all my favorites from Mass Impact was, there was that one race of aliens that felt prefer it wanted to, or as a way to talk with different species, it wanted to preface the emotion that it was placing into its sentence.
It needed to like,
Devindra: yeah, say it in phrases. It is superb. I adore it.
Ben: Yeah. Like, while you’re in an elevator or one thing, there’s somewhat advert for a all that alien species manufacturing of Hamlet or one thing. So it is that is very humorous, and if we misplaced that, I’d really feel like we’re dropping a lot from I do not know, quirky little world constructing issues in video video games.
Devindra: Quirky little issues? I imply, that is simply good writing. That is human ingenuity and creativity. There’s perhaps one thing attention-grabbing that can occur with Hey, [00:36:00] emergent AI is avatars. That’s we love like sport techniques. You see what folks do with the, simply the techniques in breath of the wild and tears of the dominion, or assume again to far cry two, the place individuals are identical to having lots of enjoyable with the principles and the mechanics of that world.
I am certain it will result in a few of that stuff. I am simply fearful that. A few of these corporations will over depend on all of it. Let’s transfer on to Black Fable Wukong although, which is a sport that’s completely killing it. Cherlynn, I really feel like this can be up your alley too, as a result of this can be a journey to the West sport, principally.
It is kind of like an adaptation. I imply, I
Cherlynn: love the concept. Is it a preventing sport? Do you want combat? It
Devindra: could be very a lot, it is like a Darkish Souls sport. It is like God of Battle meets God of Darkish Souls. Okay, however it is not truly a Souls like sport. That is the factor. It appears like a Souls like sport, however it is not. It has the mechanics.
It has the therapeutic. It has the loopy ass bosses. What I am saying is it is vitally a lot God of Battle, the kind of like adventuring round, not as open as like the way in which Elden Ring was, however very like in particular areas. It looks like Darkish Souls. It looks like [00:37:00]truly taking part in early Darkish Souls, but additionally with the massive ass bosses from Elden Ring and even God of Battle, the newer video games ended up doing lots of that.
So that is what this sport is.
Ben: In making an attempt to get myself up to the mark on this sport, I used to be watching lots of movies, watching some streamers and stuff. And the factor that I noticed first from so lots of the YouTube movies is saying that this is not a Souls like sport. After which once I watched precise gameplay, it confirmed, , massive bosses, like while you hit a boss or while you hit certainly one of these like bigger enemies, all you are doing is chip harm.
And just like the fights are fairly lengthy, which makes me really feel like it’s form of extra Souls like than not. I
Devindra: do not
Ben: perceive.
Devindra: It’s extra Souls like than it is not. I believe some individuals are being bizarre and valuable as a result of avid gamers are bizarre. However no, you must stroll round and lightweight like lanterns. And that is the place you reply.
If you die. The large factor is you do not lose all of your stuff. You do not lose all of your expertise in your objects while you die. So you’ll be able to simply return and preserve hammering at a boss, which is one thing you can’t do in souls sport very [00:38:00] simply. I assume it is extra like while you’re exploring someplace and also you die from some silly enemy and also you lose like lots of good expertise.
That is the stuff that breaks my coronary heart. That simply does not occur on this sport. You may discover and do no matter. Anyway, the information is that it was launched this week and it broke Steam’s concurrent single participant report launch inside hours of its launch. So that’s an insane factor for, for it to occur.
I believe the numbers we noticed.
Ben: Not a lot of an asterisk although, the concurrent gamers, so lots of them had been in China. That is
Cherlynn: folks being actually
Ben: enthusiastic. Ask Nick about it in China after which a small minority of individuals single digit share of individuals within the US had been taking part in this sport.
Cherlynn: What’s up, and so they had been all Chinese language to
Chinese language folks in Asia in America. No, I I imply, I, I am not shocked by the numbers. I believe the Wukong title is attention-grabbing. Like I wished to ask you about , trigger y’all each delve into the similarities to darkish souls and discuss in regards to the mechanics a [00:39:00]lot and the like parts of the story, however I am like, are the story characters.
I like from develop rising up. Are they there? You recognize, are does the monkey king fall in love with the spider demon? Does like the ocean I I’ve carry round get tighter. I’ve, I do know. In order that’s, that is what I’d be curious to see in the event that they’ve like faithfully tailored the kind of story. Issues that me, and I am certain these concurrent streamers who’re massively Chinese language are in search of, that is the kind of like vibe we’re in search of.
Perhaps
Devindra: you, you performs the monkey king, so I will offer you that. You bought the employees, you bought the, the cloud. He flies on. What’s humorous although is that I began watching OG Dragon Ball with my daughter and he or she’s very a lot into unique Dragon Ball. I am like, look Monkey King, there’s the employees, there’s this clown, he is right here.
Tail. So here is my factor too.
Cherlynn: There have been lots of not that, I am not speaking about particularly Dragon Ball, however there have been like lots of different variations, perhaps even western variations of the Monkey King story that do not really feel as trustworthy. I bear in mind Monkey King showing someplace as a playable character or like in another smaller film sort factor as [00:40:00] a baddie or one thing, proper?
And I am identical to, that is not what the Monkey King story is. It is a story about redemption. It is
Devindra: about redemption, yeah. And the wily monkey. Anyway! I simply wish to level out that that loopy numbers from the sport, what we had been seeing is 88 % of the gamers had been in China. So U. S. was in
Cherlynn: America. What a pleasant coincidence.
We love the quantity 8. Yeah,
Devindra: I used to be questioning
Ben: about that. Very fortunate. How is it that it was 88%? Very fortunate. That simply looks as if the books had been cooked up. We gamed
Cherlynn: it, y’all. That is all.
Ben: Let’s be clear. I’m not accusing them of cooking the books on this, however it simply looks as if a
Devindra: actually attention-grabbing coincidence.
Properly, let me put the context down right here. So that is basically China’s first triple A sport. The primary sport that’s on the extent of one thing like God of Battle. So, yeah. I am fairly certain if if the federal government was
Cherlynn: most likely effectively tailored. Yeah.
Devindra: If additionally, but when the federal government was like, we actually gotta get the numbers on this sport, like what
Cherlynn: can we simply activate everybody’s gaming consoles, [00:41:00]these
Devindra: consoles which can be turned off due to gaming lockdown time , the federal government’s sure, please, please.
All you bought all get free copies of the sport. I do not know. No, no, we do not know. In the event that they do this, they had been like,
Cherlynn: we’re good. We’re completed.
Devindra: I believe. Lots of people in China undoubtedly wish to play this sport. I am taking part in by means of it proper now. A few issues value mentioning as a result of the developer sport science was like within the information too, as a result of apparently.
There was a doc that went out to some streamers, or not streamers, however individuals who had been acquired the primary
Ben: have a look at the sport or one thing.
Devindra: The individuals who had been masking the sport, primarily in China, however apparently this went out to different nations, like a few different European nations too there was an inventory of forbidden topics of their assessment settlement, which embrace, don’t point out politics.
Don’t point out. Feminist propaganda. Don’t point out COVID 19 or China’s online game business insurance policies, the stuff we’re speaking about proper now and different content material that instigates adverse discourse additionally imagine like violence was one factor, though this can be a sport in regards to the monkey king, [00:42:00] like bashing large gods in, of their heads together with his stick.
Simply form of humorous. There’s that entire factor. Recreation science didn’t reply to an electronic mail. I am trying on the New York instances reporting right here. However this isn’t too shocking. Proper. Trigger we, we take care of all types of limitations in terms of after we cowl video games, it is primarily identical to it is embargo Hey, please do not spoil all of the storylines.
It is identical to a, an settlement to not spoil all the massive surprises within the sport, please. An embargo is okay, everybody goes to attempt to. Publish it this time or someday after that is like the final settlement. We’ll go to however actually not content material of our opinions Not like avoiding sure matters yeah,
Ben: additionally the chief of sport science has I do not know.
He is only a poster like think about This most whacked out stuff that Elon Musk has been posting about lately. This comes again to the concept of, are avid gamers okay? Players aren’t
Devindra: okay. I do not even
Ben: wish to point out it. It is simply form of nasty fratty [00:43:00]tradition. You recognize, in a Chinese language design studio.
Which makes me assume, oh man, are all avid gamers the identical? That is form of unhappy. I believe lots, it is
Devindra: in, it is in, Particularly for those who use it principally consists of dudes and business that could be very dude heavy like sadly it leans to that There’s a nice reporting over at IGN final yr It is referred to as how black fable Wukong builders historical past of sexism is complicating its journey to the West Written by Rebecca Valentine and Kihun Chan This can be a good piece Price value studying as a result of yeah, basically the tradition of the studio doesn’t appear nice.
It appears very, very fratty, very very like a boys membership. I’ll inform you all this I am 10 hours into this sport and now I do really feel responsible about like taking part in it as a result of I didn’t understand how absolutely shitty they had been. Yeah. However Not a single lady, 10 hours of me taking part in this sport, speaking to different creatures, speaking to gods, speaking to , different folks I am preventing or folks like dwelling on the mountain, not a single [00:44:00]feminine character.
So Laura query for certain.
Cherlynn: I am certain that is what you are about to ask Ben, which is, let me simply inform you, the story itself is closely male dominant, proper? It, the story of the journey to the West is that this monkey King, this monk, and like his three disciples, together with the monkey King. So there is a pig boy
Ben: and,
Cherlynn: Tang San Zhang is the monk.
After which he has Dude with the burly facial hair, that is certainly one of his disciples. After which the Monkey King is just like the second disciple, proper? Or the third. And alongside the way in which, they go all the way in which to the west to retrieve one thing. I overlook what. The important thing, the important thing level of the entire whole story and I overlook.
However! Alongside the way in which they encounter demons and issues that should like they wish to eat the monk’s flesh Principally as a result of it would give them immortality or one thing and so they’re demons and so they’re lesser beings within the lore, proper? so two of the demons that they encounter or three the spider demon and The 9 tailed fox or the fox demon or no matter.
These are each [00:45:00] ladies I have never encountered these characters
Devindra: but, so I do not know. So
Cherlynn: most likely you’ve encountered them as a result of they is likely to be like larger, like enemies to combat. However I additionally will level out that within the historic telling of the story, that these two are recognized to seduce the, the monkey king and the, the monk, their try and, and it’s extremely sexualized that approach.
And in addition it. into like slang. I would not say slang, however just like the vernacular the place in Mandarin, the phrases spider demon or fox demon imply ladies who’re like, I do not wish to use the S phrase, however what I imply? Like they’re somewhat promiscuous or they’re somewhat, Extra on the market, proper? So that you’re saying just like the story itself is
Devindra: like inherently sexist too?
Sure. Yeah. I’m not shocked. Under no circumstances shocked. Nevertheless it does look like the sport is reflecting that. Pay attention I believe a contemporary developer could possibly be like, effectively, screw that, proper? Like we might, we might change issues up as a result of we’re retelling the story. Could possibly be.
Cherlynn: It might have been so cool.
Devindra: Wouldn’t it be so cool?
However it’s
Cherlynn: additionally China.
Devindra: It’s also China. The place such as you
Cherlynn: talked about these stipulations and in media and [00:46:00]in leisure, they’re very cautious in regards to the messaging, which is why I used to be like nodding alongside while you stated these issues that they’ve stipulated as a result of it tracks.
Devindra: It tracks. Anyway sport is okay to this point.
Like I am, I am having fun with a minimum of, however it does suck that this firm has a historical past of this. I really feel like that is like one thing, in the event that they cared, in the event that they cared in any respect, Simply the factor they may have famous, however no, it does not look like they’re, they care in any respect. Additionally rewatching unique Dragon Ball you be taught just about like Bulma is the goat, however nothing would occur in Goku’s story with out Bulma.
So shout out to Bulma. My daughter, Sophia loves Bulma. She’s Bulma has all these like capsules. She’s acquired all these autos. She’s cool. Bulma is tremendous cool. Shout out to Bulma. Okay. In order that’s Gamescom. Go check out all of our protection from that occasion. And and for those who’re taking part in Black Fable Wukong, let me know what you assume.
Let’s transfer on to another information actual fast. A few issues I wished to shout out. I wrote up one thing that’s so deeply nerdy, however I am very proud that we put it [00:47:00] on the location as a result of that is, this is not gadget. Okay, X mems, the corporate that Billy Steele has written about, which has produced stable state stable state drivers for earbuds and issues like that.
So not like conventional audio system with the coil and the magnet, all that stuff, stable state silicon that may, that may work as your earbud driver. This firm. He has used that very same know-how to supply a one millimeter tall fan on a chip. So that is one millimeter tall, basically a chip that may work as a fan.
It is utilizing ultrasonics to maneuver air round inside it. So
Ben: that is actually attention-grabbing. It is actually cool.
Cherlynn: Loopy. So the
Ben: entire concept is I used to be questioning like, the place are the transferring elements? The place are the fan blade? Actually, actually tiny ultrasonics,
Devindra: Ben ultrasonics. So anyway, this firm and so they’re utilizing MEMS.
know-how, which is micro electromechanical techniques know-how. That’s basically like actually, actually, actually small equipment, however on this case with no transferring elements however basically like you possibly can put one or two or a [00:48:00] couple of those followers inside a future smartphone, inside a pill, inside a tool just like the Mac e-book air M two, which died on me at Apple’s campus as a result of I used to be working within the solar and that pc has no fan.
So when you don’t have any fan. You are the warmth from all of your work is simply form of trapped in there. So I simply assume that is actually cool. That is one thing that might find yourself being in gadgets sooner or later. May actually change the way in which like extremely skinny gadgets are made. If the rumors about Apple wanting to try this loopy extremely skinny iPhone are true, like perhaps we have to get some airflow in that.
And I simply assume that concept. Is, is, simply assume it is neat. What do you guys, what do you guys assume?
Ben: I actually hope that this does not drive canine loopy.
Devindra: It is
Ben: they are saying it is silent, however yeah. Ultrasonic, yeah. So it must be like approach outdoors of the listening to vary of any creature, hopefully.
Devindra: It might. Cherlynn, ideas?
Cherlynn: I imply, I believe the know-how, the concept itself is basically cool. I believe Fan on a chip, like simply that alone. Like we had been all like, Devon, you bought to have a look at this one. And then you definitely had been like, [00:49:00] yeah, it is simply I believe all of us nerded out like a bunch as a bunch nerded out about this. Good
Devindra: nerd stuff.
Do you wish to level on the market is sort of a competing product for, I hate saying it out loud, for they’re producing the air jets mini, which I imagine the verge and different websites have have lined and forest factor is 2. 5 millimeters to 2. 8 millimeters thick. So, . A pair, couple millimeters taller and it additionally appears like a much bigger bundle on this factor.
Just like the factor about XMEMS know-how, it appears like a tiny little chip, so it might simply go inside your iPhone the place there’s this little area on actual property. It is the kind of factor you possibly can put it proper on the GPU, proper on the APU. Seems to be cool, might change the way in which our gadgets are designed. So take a look at my protection of the XMEMS chip.
We wrote a narrative in San Francisco. Actual fast is aiming to take down AI undressing web sites and a brand new lawsuit. That is simply excellent news as a result of the very fact that there’s a prevalence of those apps each on the net and an app supply is totally disgusting. And we’re like absolutely unequipped to take care of them proper now.
So, it is, it is a good factor. [00:50:00]Hopefully we see extra of this on a federal degree too, not only a San Francisco. And one thing I wished to ask Cherlynnn, as a result of we noticed this information drop Chick fil A. The rooster sandwich place is launching a streaming service for actuality TV and tone programming. What do you consider Chick fil A’s streaming service?
Cherlynn: Okay, to begin with,
Devindra: you must have
Cherlynn: paid higher consideration to our present notes. Sure, you must. Or not.
Ben: No, that is truly, no, that is truly nice. Yeah. That is actually humorous that you simply weren’t conscious of this as a result of now we’re getting your actual response. Yeah,
Devindra: what are your first impressions on this information? What?
That is bizarre.
Ben: Why? What are
Cherlynn: they going to point out me? It feels to me like these
Ben: executives are like channeling an concept, like they they took out a Ouija board, however as an alternative of speaking with spirits, they’re speaking with the spirit of 2015, and so they’re like, okay, what’s the finest enterprise logic for rising our Nationwide [00:51:00] firm.
Let’s simply do a streaming service as a result of streaming providers are actually scorching, proper? No, dude they’re all consolidating as a result of Piper has requested to be paid by way of streaming
Cherlynn: There is a paradise within the chest. Are the cows the pigs? Producers reduce a CD is like rooster courting present. I am sorry if that is the precise content material we’re anticipating.
Hell sure. I imply,
Ben: has like pet soccer. Like we, we’ve lots of love Island. It could possibly be love pasture.
Cherlynn: Pay attention, hear, in the event that they do like rooster farm content material after which they slaughter the chickens and fry them, I believe that’s form of regarding, however I may even say which have they, have y’all seen the KFC like Hallmark film?
Devindra: I’ve not seen it. I do know it exists.
Cherlynn: Oh my god, the place Mario Lopez performs Colonel Sanders, after which he falls in love with a lady. I believe perhaps that
Devindra: was their inspiration. We gotta, we gotta out rooster KFC. We gotta, we gotta do one thing right here. It was so good.
Cherlynn: I am sorry if I’ve gone ultrasonic. I am feeling [00:52:00]pitched.
I believe Chick fil A
Devindra: is flying too near the solar. I believe that is what it’s. They’re doing rather well. It is acquired all this cash. You are able to do all these things. Additionally,
Ben: Chick fil A is infamous for , did a cow write this signal? It is like E E T, extra rooster. Yeah. Like, all spelled improper. It is fairly humorous.
So I can solely think about what the closed captions would appear to be. Oh, man. But in addition,
Devindra: Chick fil A is notoriously a a really spiritual, religiously main firm. Sure, that is what I used to be pondering, too. Once more, the Hallmark film may very well
Ben: be an excellent,
Cherlynn: Perhaps.
Ben: Yeah. No, that is what I used to be desirous about. It could possibly be form of like Hallmark or it could possibly be like, what if we had our personal Hallmark?
Yeah. Yeah.
Cherlynn: Proper. However what in the event that they purchased farmers solely, which I do not know if y’all know is sort of a farmer’s solely courting web site.
Devindra: Yeah.
Cherlynn: After which they had been like rooster farmers solely. After which they put them on a present.
Devindra: Okay. So we had humorous information. How about some WTF information? As a result of this can be a loopy story and I am simply bringing it up as a result of it’s fricking wild.
It is also principally the plot of business season three British [00:53:00] billionaire, Mike Lynch was lately discovered lifeless after his yacht sank a number of days in the past, or it could have been per week in the past at this level. I am mentioning this. As a result of this man is concerned in lots of shady stuff. Like again once I was masking HP stuff he was the CEO of autonomy and HP purchased that for 11 billion and never too lengthy after HP was like, Oh crap, we made an enormous mistake, 8.
8 billion proper down. Only for shopping for autonomy. He and his former VP of finance had been principally I imagine San Francisco was charging them for some time. They had been lately acquitted in June on he was acquitted on 15 counts of fraud. This can be a man was only a bonkers bonkers life. So he disappeared from his boat now confirmed to be lifeless.
We predict, oh, this can be a form of a bizarre story, proper? His former VP of finance, Stephen Chamberlain. Died mysteriously this week after being hit by a automotive.
Cherlynn: Extraordinarily mysterious. Extraordinarily.
Devindra: Extraordinarily like financial institution who’s very [00:54:00] pissed off in regards to the billions of {dollars} that they most likely misplaced due to your deal or your corporation practices.
Extraordinarily Oh, you simply, we’ll make you go bye bye now. Anyway, that’s purely conjecture, purely conspiracy idea.
Ben: Yeah. Do not forget that episode of breaking unhealthy the place they coordinated a success. On 5 completely different doable witnesses in numerous prisons all in the identical 5 minutes.
Devindra: Yeah, I imply, it is simply, it’s wild.
There are some issues that occur in actual life that’s completely freaky. I do not know, there are experiences about what like ExxonMobil does to reporters. Like after they co cowl oil fields or stuff someplace. Reporters have stated my lodge reservation was cancelled. Issues are simply actually bizarre, like bizarre shit that these corporations have the ability to do people.
Like we see tales in regards to the mobs and stuff, however remember who has all the cash and all the ability. Simply dropping that bizarre story proper there. Anyway, watch Business in order for you one other angle or one other sort of story like this. Cherlynn, once more, you must watch that present. [00:55:00] I believe you’d take pleasure in it.
Cherlynn: I simply wish to level out that Davindra, I, I, me, I prefer to re watch Schitt’s Creek till the day I die earlier than I like even begin a brand new present, so.
Devindra: Properly, it is extra you need some good drama, good steamy drama in your life. Once I do
Cherlynn: need some good Non-science fiction, drama, non-science fiction drama
Devindra: with like human characters who’ve flaws, who’re very bold. Like I believe you’ll does
Cherlynn: it sound like this? Mm-Hmm. different present.
This succession. It is
Devindra: very, actually, I wrote a complete piece about that Sherly. So you must go, you must go learn that assessment. I do know. Flying Lotus. The artist, certainly one of my favourite artists, has confirmed that he composed two Apple ringtones, Dawn and Chalet, which have been on iPhones since 2019. So I am simply, that is cool.
It is cool to me. Is it cool to you, Ben? Should’ve
Ben: been a pleasant bag. Should’ve been a very nice bag. And that is additionally has a, podcast connection as a result of the podcast 20, 000 Hertz, which is a podcast all about sound design. So that they had been doing somewhat collection referred to as The Sound of Apple [00:56:00] and so they talked about it.
And so now Flying Lotus was like, okay, I did not simply ghost produce these. I can say, sure, I produced these two ringtones and I will drop these two ringtones in on the audio model. So here is Dawn.
And here is Chalet.
Devindra: I, I’ve switched again to dawn, however they’ve the identical layers and vibes of flying Lotus’s stuff. So I am like, okay, we should always have certain. Most likely informed that that is the rumors about Michael Jackson engaged on the Sonic three soundtrack. [00:57:00] That is like that degree of geek and artistry form of, combining, which I do not assume was ever absolutely confirmed.
Like perhaps he did some consulting or one thing, however that soundtrack did slap. So there’s that. Let’s transfer on to some popular culture pics for the week. What do you bought? Present one.
Cherlynn: So I, once I thought I had popular culture pics this week, I spotted I’d’ve already shared it with the, the, this podcast, however no, however, however, however, however, however simply reminder that I nonetheless watch scary attention-grabbing until I die as a result of it is hilarious.
I imply, hilariously morbid it is simply hilarious that I listened to these tales. If folks getting caught in caves and underwater diving accidents. Why would you do that to your self? Okay. As a result of I take pleasure in it by some means. However so I believe I’ve talked about this proper on the podcast. I believe Ben or Dove, you may bear in mind scary, attention-grabbing, cave exploring gone improper. Anyway. So as an alternative of that kind of popular culture decide, I will give y’all a distinct one, which is I lately found as a result of it is surfaced on my app, YouTube has these video games. Now, have y’all, have y’all seen these? I do not know. Perhaps I am conscious
Devindra: that they are sport.
Cherlynn: Yeah. So it isn’t like new data.
It is not model new [00:58:00]data as Phoebe buffet would say, however I simply began taking part in a few of them and so they’re fairly hilariously not nice, and but additionally considerably addictive in traditional me. Traditional Sherline?
Devindra: Sure. Traditional air. The sport included on the airplane TV Sherline? Sure. Yeah.
Cherlynn: Okay. There’s a, there’s a a sport that I have been taking part in on YouTube video games referred to as a Telephone Case Designer.
Devindra: Okay, yeah,
Cherlynn: that is my suggestion.
Devindra: Thanks for that Cherlynn. Really Ben, do you wish to shout something out? Cuz I acquired a I have to run to the toilet. Yeah, I believe so. Okay, go for it Yeah, yeah,
Ben: I get to do a producer decide that is cool Okay, so a few years in the past, there was a e-book that got here out referred to as uncanny valley by Anna Weiner or Weiner I believe it is likely to be Weiner and it is usually like a A Story that I’m very aware of which is like this can be a non fiction e-book It is a few lady’s expertise [00:59:00] going from the publishing world to working in startups within the early 2010s She began out working for this like massive information firm when massive information was first rising after which moved over to github and Is simply speaking about her private expertise with the bizarre tradition of the bay space throughout that point As a result of in that point of the early to mid 2010s, was when just like the inhabitants of the Bay Space, particularly like San Francisco Oakland space, was actually Turning over.
There have been lots of people, lots of younger professionals coming from all around the nation to work at these startups, making some huge cash, like speaking about doing ayahuasca journeys and the way even after they’re tripping, they’re desirous about like B2B enterprise options. It is unusual. It is not one thing that I wasn’t already conscious of, however it was, it is simply [01:00:00] enjoyable to Take heed to I am listening to the audiobook.
Cherlynn: Yeah. I imply, that is why all of us do the popular culture picks from completely different folks as a result of completely different folks have completely different tastes and you’ve got your style and I like to play foolish little YouTube video games. So there you go. Simon B within the chat says YouTube video games are too addicting. So I really feel like I really feel supported.
The place had been you again within the Fb video games
Devindra: period, Sherilyn? Have been you deep in Farmville
Cherlynn: or not? Yeah. PVZ? No, I did not play Farmville, though I believe I might have. And I believe lots of people in my circles did play them. It feels
Ben: Okay. Okay. So, Dev, do you’ve a decide? Yeah, I will
Devindra: do actual, actual fast.
I do wish to shout out that one of many biggest TV exhibits ever made, which has been inaccessible for a very long time, Murder Life on the Road. Among the best cop exhibits ever made is it is now wire earlier than the wire wire earlier than the wire primarily based on david simon’s e-book with lots of people who went on to supply different television exhibits like bosh it’s now streaming on peacock.
It is an unbelievable present starring the late nice andre brauer so You miss Andre Brower from Brooklyn [01:01:00]9 9. Plenty of nice actors, like characters that had been established in Murder went on to Legislation and Order and different issues. So it is a improbable present. You need to test it out. Particularly the primary few seasons.
It is streaming proper now. I’ve the DVD set, which was nice. It is simply on sale, however I do not, I am nonetheless completely happy to have that as a result of I really feel just like the digital model can go any, any time you get to purchase the stuff you love. So that is what I’ve acquired for this week.
Cherlynn: Properly, that is it for the episode this week, everybody.
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